Saturday, 13 October 2012

First Timers MHL Round 3 Edgemont JS vs. Lakeland CK

Overview of the Round

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Aff-Edgemont JS who ran rail
Neg-Lakeland who ran sequestration DA, T must be pre-existing, and read Transportation rationality K /some infrastructure CP in the 2NC...




Speaker Point System
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Here are some thoughts as to how I assign speaker points.

- I strongly dislike (because 'hate' is a strong word) debaters that lie and cheat. I despise debaters that lie about evidence. There's a difference between outright lying about evidence and 'spinning' an evidence and extrapolating from its' warrants. I don't like it when people clip cards for the obvious reasons. Just please don't lie and cheat.


Tips
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Devin- start out by extending your aff. This is your offense in the round. The 3:30 you had left could've been used to develop your arguments and paint me a coherent picture about your aff. Also, DON'T CONCEDE T IN THE 2AC!

Ethan & Matthew- try not to pace around during CX. Stand firmly in one area for 3 minutes! try to give an overview on the top of the disad flow; develop your arguments!

Matthew- learn to pronounce 'bipartisan'! 


Fangwei-
 You have a very good presence in the round. You have a lot of ethos and your CX questions and your speeches clearly show that you've done some research! I really liked the empirics that you cited and the analysis you did about austerity.

- I enjoyed your evidence comparison too! I liked the fact that you pointed out that your card was from a bipartisan committee! 

Speech by speech comments
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1AC- you are incredibly clear and fast for a novice. Keep up the good work! One tip though, try to further distinguish the tag of the card from the actual card. Also-Fangwei-your CX answers were excellent and proved to me that you are doing your research! You clearly know a lot about the economy.
1NC- Good speech! You spoke at a good pace and you spoke clearly.
2AC- DON'T DROP T IN THE 2AC. Luckily, the other team didn't end up extending it so good for you! Otherwise, your answers to the sequestration disad were sufficient but try not to read answers to the election disad because thats a waste of time and you could be utilizing your speech time doing much more efficient things.
2NC- Don't just read cards. Do some analysis on the arguments already read.
1NR- try not to reread the cards that you had already read in the 1NC! The analysis you did after reading the disad over again was good-I wish that I could have seen that earlier in the round! 
1AR- Your speech was great! Arguably the best speech I've seen a novice give in a while. You seem to have a lot of knowledge on the economy and about history. I like how you did line by line. This speech was excellent. 
2NR- You did some analysis in the 2NR that I would have liked to hear earlier in this round.
2AR- The 2AR had several framing issues that persuaded me to vote aff. 

RFD
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I was persuaded that freight increases trade which acts as a deterrent because it increases interdependence among countries. Also, I really liked the 2AR because it was really effective in proving to me that it really is try or die for the aff. 

First Timers MHL Round 2 Edgemont CR vs. Lakeland MS

1AC-good speaking voice, very clear. Good job answering CX questions.
1NC- you could be a little louder, but you were overall clear--so its fine. I did notice that you read the same card twice. Next time, try not to do that.
2AC- your analysis on case was very good! Your line by line on case was impressive and very responsive. You have a lot of ethos.
2NC- You should try not to only read cards! Do more analysis on the fiscal cliff DA!
1NR- Your analysis on the fiscal cliff DA was good, but please try to tell me a more coherent link story!
1AR- this speech was excellent. You did a great job persuading me that you don't link to the disad and that the negative can't access their impacts. The empirics that referred back to the Chinese economy was utilized well!
2NR- Your 2NR was only a minute long! Next time, be sure to use or at least try to use all your speech time.
2AR- your overview on case was very good!


RFD: I am persuaded that the negative can't access their nuclear war impacts. The 1A and 2A do a great job of explaining the no link argument made. The aff did a good job defending their aff and proving how HSR would ultimately boost the economy by creating jobs, increasing private sector investment and would decrease pollution.


Tips

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Dennis--try to give more than a 1/2 minute 2NR! Develop your arguments!

Kent--please flow!

Speaker Point System
Edgemont
Kent Cai- 28
Jared Rosner- 28

Lakeland
Ryan Mulhern-27
Dennis San Lucas-26.5